Is this a murder or suicide? What is your opinion? Justify with facts taken from the picture. Apart from your explanation, you also have to comment on your classmates posts. You have to find loopholes in their argument. You should be commenting on at least two of your classmates' explanations. Deadline for your post is 18th Aug. and comments is 20th Aug
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ReplyDeleteSeeing the picture it seems like a murder to me. There is a cigarette in left hand of the victim. No one will smoke while committing suicide.. .
More over victim is holding a gun in right hand. And also it's evident from the picture that victim was writing something facing the window before being shot. So if she had shot herself (facing the window)with the gun in right hand, the blood stain will not be on the wall ,rather it would be in the opposite side. Blood stains on the wall indicates that she was shot from her left side(while facing the window)...
Thus someone must have shot her while she was working.. .
And has tried to set it up as a suicide.. .
May be she wanted a last drag before dying!
DeleteBut she must have finished it before dying....
DeleteI forgot to comment on the slippers. It must belong to the murderer.He must have heard other people comming, on hearing the gun shot and left a slipper in panic(in the fear of not getting caught). .
Another point ....
DeleteIf she's smoking with her left hand. .. Obviously she must be a left hander ..
This contradicts the fact of shooting herself with a gun in right hand or vise versa. .. .
My reply might sound quite stereotypic.
DeleteThe way she dressed seems to be more like a person who lives in any abroad. Most of the people who lives in those countries would were shoes or boots rather than these kind of slipper because those kind of slippers are ment to be worn inside the house. And the murderer is not that foolish to leave one of his slipper in the victims house..hence the slipper belongs to the victim
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Smoking and suicide- why they can't be related. The victim might have fall in love and might not have get his/her lover. So the 2 things must have been his/her result
DeleteYou have put an opinion that the person would have been writing something before getting shot. How could someone write with the lamp plugged out . Though the the ceiling lamp give some light , while you look down and write , lamp is needed as there are possibilities that the room is built on such a way that the ceiling lamp is opposite to the table(backside).
DeleteThe blood spread in the wall indicates that her death is not because of a gun shot
DeleteWe cant say that who will smoke before going to commit sucide, may be she likes to smoke before going to commit sucide.
DeleteAjith R
DeleteSimultaneously she might have smoked with one hand and with the pen in the other hand.
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DeleteIf someone shot the victim with a gun ,there has to be a bullet somewhere here,but I didn't see any bullet there
DeleteIt is obvious. The bullet must be inside her head.
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DeleteI suspect it's a murder and she could have been shot while she was sitting on the stool.
ReplyDelete1. The position of the ashtray as well as cigarette on her left hand discloses the fact that she is obviously left handed, hence, it's unlikely that someone uses a non-dominant hand for a successful gunshot in the head.
2. The recoil force of the gun would have probably knocked the gun off from her hand. So someone must have securely placed it in her hand.
3. Blood splatter is on the right-side which is contradictory considering the fact that she is holding the gun in her right hand.
4. Blood splatter is more aligned to her sitting position meaning someone might have shot her while she was writing.
5. Cigarette is unfinished. If it's a suicide, as a chronic smoker, she should have finished it.
It seems like she is trying to write a crucial information she knows in a hurry(lamp is even unplugged). It could also be possible that she knows someone is following her trying to withhold her from spreading the secret.
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DeleteInteresting points!
DeleteAjith R
DeleteAs Kapilesh's assumption,there were 2 guns. One with murderer and other with victim. We can check the bullet and confirm from whose gun it exploded.And then only we can say that whether it's murder or suicide.
Yes. There's a possibility. The best thing about art in any form is that it's always open to numerous interpretations.
DeleteI am kapilesh .
ReplyDeleteI guess the incident which has happened to the person is a murder .
1. The gun and the cigarette are in the hands which are surely not possible if she had committed a suicide . No one can hold things on their hands when they are unconscious. So there must have been a second person who had set that up.
2. The mess around there - like the fallen stool and a single slipper shows that she has searched for the gun to shoot the opposite person but was late and got shot . The slipper shows that she ran in hurry to the place in the photo when she saw the enemy .
3 . From the papers and the pen , I guess that the person is some kind of a writer . He must have wrote an article against a party and they should have took revenge on the person .
4 . The lamp plug is out from the electric socket . I guess that the person should have tried to move by grabbing the wire of the lamp .
Point 2 - interesting add - on
DeleteThe shelf nearby is closed..i think she was not searching for a gun. May be she might have been chased by the murderer, she tried to find something to protect herself, but got shot and died
DeleteI add on to Dhanush
DeleteI think it's possible to hold the things even after commiting sucide for a period of time.because body parts like fingers shrinks after dying or we can say that one can't die instantly after being shot by the gun so one can hold the things
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As per your point,
DeleteIf we think it is a murder, how can a common man can have a gun ,even though we can say that he bought it for protection purpose but can he afford it ,he has to pay for the license,rental for the gun ,bullets.
Even if we say that the killer himself placed the gun on the victim's hands and to frame it as a suicide.
Criminals won't leave their guns as simple as that, because it is very difficult to keep the guns illegally with required bullets.
There is no possibility that criminals can frame it as a suicide with the gun
She was not writing any article because the letter is too short with signature ...
DeleteAnd your point is right that a politician might have arranged to kill her because only a rich can afford gangsters using gun..
-Kavia.M
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ReplyDelete>Since the pen is on the left side, let's consider the victim was left handed.
>The victim(he/she) is holding the gun in her right hand and also an unfinished cigarette in the left hand. It's an obvious fact that almost everyone uses their dominant-hand for anything(as said by other classmates). Also no one can hold anything if he/she is shot by a gun.
>If she is right-handed and committed suicide,she would've fallen on the left side and dropped the gun,she would have dropped the cigarette also. (These things didn't happen.)
>The blood stains on the wall on the right side says that the victim was shot from the left, but not by herself.
From the things given in the pic above,we can predict that she was in a hurry to send a message to someone,that she didn't even wore her specs or turn on the lamp to write the letter.
>The lone-slipper may belong to the murderer,he/she could've got panicked after killing the victim and left it.
If it belongs to the victim, the other one would've been in the same place but it is not. So the murderer tried to set this up as a suicide.
So I think it is a "murder".
Here's what I found strange -
right-handers feel easier to write if the paper is kept on the left side. Likewise, left-handers feel easier to write if the paper is kept on the right-side. In this pic both the pen and the paper is on the left-side .
>So there's a chance that the murderer could've killed the victim and wrote the letter as a suicide note and just placed the pen on the left side.(Anyway this is not going to change anything).
I conclude this as a "murder".
Thank you,
Subheksha Kumar s
(forgot to add in the last para),
DeleteThere is a chance that the victim can also be right-handed.
Even i thought she might be right handed! good points!
DeleteThe more closer the shooter is the straighter the blood spatter is.You said that the slipper belongs to the murderer.I think the murderer never came to the room.May be the other window was open the victim waited for a clear shot,when the victim stood up from the stool the murderer got a clear shot and shot her. That's why the Blood spatter is not straight and it is scattered.So whose slipper is it ??
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Why can't a dead can hold things?
DeleteIf It is firm, why can't it be available in his/her hand.
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ReplyDeleteHello guys...I am Soumya.S..2018103596...
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion this is a murder and not a suicide... Let us see how..
1.It is clear from the position of the lamp , pen and the papers that the victim is left handed.
2.People mostly use their dominant hand for doing activities and use the other hand only for support...Hence the position of the pistol in the right hand creates a suspicion..
3.Moreover our body loses it's control after we die. Hence holding an object after death is impossible...
4.The blood smear on the wall is lower than the height of the victim...This indicates that the victim has been shot while she was sitting..(as she has been shot in the head)
5.The room and the work- space is not well-organized i.e it is messy which indicates signs of violence...
6.From the above facts I conclude that the this case is not a suicide but a murder..
I suppose that the victim is a journalist and she knows a secret and the assaulter doesn't wish that the secret comes out. The assaulter and the victim might have had an heated argument which is indicated by the messy space. As the victim was about to pen down the secret and publish it , the assaulter shot the victim(from the left) while she was sitting and hence the stool fell down and the victim fell towards her right...While falling down she might have held the lamp wire for support and in turn unplugged the lamp...The assaulter has made the whole thing look like a suicide so that people don't suspect him/her....
The victim can be right-handed because the position of the pen maybe on the left but the position of the paper is also the on left.
DeleteMyself being a right-hander I find it easy to write when the paper is on the left. Moreover the position of the coke and ashtray on the left is favorable to have a drink using left hand while the right hand is busy, writing.
We do most of our activities by our dominant hand,that's true.
That's why the dustbin is on the right . No right-hander will use his/her left hand to throw things on the dustbin.
So these things say that the victim can be a right-hander.
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Journalist story!! interesting perspective!
DeleteIm convinced that it is a murder. But the messy room doesn't convey that it is murder. Actually the room is not that messy. The books are arranged in proper manner and there are fresh flowers. And why would the murderer leave the secret written by the journalist as it is in victim's place itself. If that was the reason, the murderer would have destroyed the piece of paper
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@2018103605....Dustbins are usually placed at the corner of a room..Either left or right...Hence, I strongly feel that the position of a dustbin can't determine a person's dominant hand...:)..Going by your point ..Yes the papers are on the left...But what about the lampshade??..YOU being a right hander,won't place your lamp on the right side...Isn't???:)...
Delete>Yes..the dustbin is placed in the corner but it is right next to where she would sit and do her work, so it is easy to throw her rough works or any other wastes.(if she is a right-hander)
Delete>The book rack on the right side also proves that the victim can be a right-hander, it is visible that a red book is popped out.Right handers would like to keep their books to their right.
>Considering the height of the victim and the lamp, I think the lampshade won't be a problem.The position of the lamp can't determine a person's dominant hand either.ME being a right-hander I would place the lamp anywhere I feel comfortable.
More than everything, the position of the papers on the left made me think that the victim can be a right-hander.
Hi Iam KEERTHANA.S. I suspect this crime to be a murder because
ReplyDelete1)The lamp,coke,ash tray on the right side and the cigarette on her right hand clearly shows that the person is left handed.People usually use their dominant hand to shoot or while committing suicides.But the gun is in her left hand which raises a doubt that somebody might have wantedly placed the gun in her hand.
2)The blood splatter on the wall and the gun on the same side is not possible.
3)The stool being led down on the side she had fallen makes it clear that she was sitting on the stool when she was shot.
4)The position of the dead body shows that she must be sitting with her back facing the wall which in turn makes it clear that she was not writing on the table anything when she was shot.
5)And finally no human will commit suicide leaving a cigarette half smoked.Or atleast she must have thrown it and shot herself(which is not done.)
Hence I suspect this to be a murder.Thank you.
Why are u sticking to one point that the gun is in the left hand so that she is a left hander.just look at the position of the paper and the pen a left hander would always write facing the opposite side(right).but the papers position indicates that she isn't a left hander so probability that she is a right hander is more.
DeleteThat was just a typo error.The is in her right hand and things like lamp at the right side and coke and the ash tray on the left makes it clear that she is left handed.
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Hi this is Swadesh.
ReplyDeleteI think it is a suicide because he has alcohol bottle in the trash and has smoked more than 1 cigar which can be seen from the ash tray. So, from these points we can safely assure that he is in depression. he is either a right-handed person or ambidextrous. I would assume he is right-handed because the pen is facing in a direction that a right hander would keep it in. The lamp is in the left side because the plug is in that position and from the length of the cable it isn’t possible for him to place it in the required position. Suicides are committed in anxiety, anger, fear and depressed situation. So the reason why he hasn’t finished his cigar is because he was afraid and depressed before committing suicide and since such a decision is taken at that very moment in fraction of a second. Another reason is that with the height of this person I would say he was sitting on the chair and killed himself and the gun was in close range because blood is everywhere in that place and it has an entry and an exit wound because blood is on both sides and the gun being merely a pistol the bullet if fired at a distance would have simple lodged rather than coming out.
Your perception may be right.
DeleteI thought like...the victim would've been a right-hander and sat on the opposite side of the table shot himself, that's why the victim's position is facing towards us (i.e. opp. side of the table)
But whose slipper is lying beside him, that too for right a leg?
Another question,
why would the victim still holding the gun? Eventhough it is merely a pistol, the victim would have dropped it after dying.
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1. Is the victim he or she? and if he had shot himself, the direction of gun and blood splatter is not matching. a chronic smoker, would rather finish his cigarette if he is going to die not shoot with cigarette in one hand.
DeleteA person who drinks and smokes need not necessarily be in depression. We could even see a soft drink tin on the table. The person might habitated to drinking and getting high. Why would a person in depressed state want their room to be clean and filled with fresh flowers. Literally they wouldn't care anything. But the surrounding of the room doesn't look in any way.
DeleteI contradict your point that it is a suicide...I put forth the following arguments in my favour..
Delete1.If the victim has used her right hand for suicide then the blood splatter would not be on the rear wall but on the opposite direction...
2.If a person wishes to commit suicide due to depression..then why would he/she follow such a cruel method which involves bloodshed??Suicides can be committed peacefully...The victim being an alcohol-addict could have mixed poison with that and could have died peacefully!!why choose such a tough method???
Hi swadesh,I think your assumptions may be wrong.May be the lamp could be for the sake of the switch board,but the coke and the ash tray and half burnt cigar in her left hand shows that she is right handed.
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I dont think this is a suicide. If the victim shot herself there would be powder residue from sunburned carbon on the hand that she fired the gun.But I couldn't see any such evidence from the picture.So it couldn't be a suicide.
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DeleteAs per your point,the person shot himself with a gun.
DeleteBut why there is high amount of blood in the wall at a particular spot,
You said blood is everywhere but other than wall and floor there is no sign of blood
(Kavia.M 2018103036)
DeleteYou can't say that the suicide is decided in a fraction of second even before the cigarette is completed...If so the gun should be in a hand reachable distance so as to support the sudden decision...1st of all the is less less possibility for her to have a gun...If it were a suicide , she would have planned it before .. If it is a sudden decision due to depression , she might had change of mind while taking the gun from the cupboard but the cupboard too not opened...how comes it a sudden decision while smoking even without dropping the cigarette..
Hey guys
ReplyDeleteI think this is a murder. Probably that night this could have been the sequence of events:
*The victim sat on the stool and was smoking and had also consumed alcohol(as there is an alcohol bottle). She could be enjoying a perfect evening.
*Suddenly the murderer comes in probably from the front door since the windows are locked.The murderer comes and pushes the victim.She falls along with the stool.
*She then stands up and they might have had an argument.The murderer then shoots the victim.
*If it was a suicide there is no need for her to get up from the stool and shoot herself.
* The murderer then writes a suicide note to make us believe it is a suicide. But the murderer didnt notice that she was a left hander.
* This must have been his first crime.He got scared and in a hurry he left his slipper. The slipper does not belong to the victim, if it was the victim's there would have been two slippers.
*The nightlamp is unplugged and the window shows it is dark outside.So there are no chances of her writing a suicide note. The murderer must have wrote it then unplugged the lamp the make the crime scene look as it was earlier.
* Since she is a left hander there are no chances of her holding the pistol on the right hand.
All these evidences clearly state it a murder.
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so why was she sitting in the dark? and another slipper might be below her body. why would a murderer go with single slipper?
DeleteMay she was a sort of person who prefers dark rather than the bright lightings. So it is clear it must be a murder.The murderer used the lamp while he/she shot the victim and then unplugged it. The slipper must have been the murderer's mistake (he/she left it in a hurry)
DeleteJust because she is holding the gun in her right hand, how can you say that she is a left-handed person?
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I m saying the person is left handed, judging by the position of the lamp and the pen.
DeleteI think it is a murder because of the following reasons:
ReplyDelete*From the picture we can see that the victim is holding a cigarette
in his/her left hand. It does not mean that he/she is left-handed.
The half written paper on the table suggests that he/she was writing
something before the occurance of the event. We can also see that
the pen is not closed. So it is actually possible that she was
writing something with her right hand and was holding a cigarette on
her left-hand during which the murderer could have shot him/her.
*The victim is holding a gun in his/her right hand. If the victim had
shot himself/herself, the blood cannot possibly be on the right wall
assuming he/she sat facing towards the table. So the gun could have
been placed on the right hand of the victim by the murderer to make
it seem like a suicide. To add on, the gun is seen firmly held by
the victim which is not possible because if it was a suicide then
the gun would have been thrown away during the fall.
*The stool too is seen under the writing desk. So the murderer would
have moved the stool out of his way to place the gun on the right
hand of the victim.
So I suspect this as a murder.
-T.Umar Ahmed
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whose slipper was it?
DeleteYou say that the piece of information is written by the girl herself? What if the murderer himself planted a fake suicide note ?
DeleteIf she was having the cigarette in her hand before she was shot,she should have thrown away the cigarette also know , out of shock.Then is it the murderer who has placed the cigarette in her hand after shooting her?..If it so,why do u think he / she has done it?
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I suspect this crime scene to be a murder because of the following reasons.
ReplyDelete1) The victim is firmly holding the gun. If the victim committed suicide by shooting herself, then the gun should have fallen off from her or the grip should have been loosen which is not in this case. So the murderer must have shot her and placed the gun in her hand to make the crime scene as a suicide.
2) There is only one slipper. That slipper cant be the victim's because nobody wears a single slipper. We always wear it as a pair. So the slipper should be the murderer's one. He must have left his/her slipper in hurry to escape the crime scene.
3) If the victim killed herself, she would have placed the pen down and then shot herself as she was holding a cigar on her left hand. But notice one thing that the paper which she was writing on are tilted 45 degree to the left which obviously tells that the victim was a right handed person. But the pen is placed on the left side of the paper. So the murderer didn't notice whether she was a left or right handed person as he was in a hurry and placed the pen on the left side of the paper.
All these evidences conclude that this is a "MURDER".
-Paargav Shanker Su (2018103048)
other slipper might be below the body! which murderer would leave his slipper and go with one slipper? so are u saying the murderer wrote a suicide note?
DeleteThe fact that she is right-handed may be correct.. But you can't say this by seeing the paper she was writing..
DeleteThe murderer may also have written the suicide note...
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This was murder which was supposed to look like a suicide.
ReplyDeleteThe person is left handed as she is holding the cigarette in left hand and also , judging by the position of lamp and pen. So she cannot shoot her with her right hand. As we know everyone will use their dominant hand.
Even if she is right handed, the blood stains must be on the left side.
From seeing the blood stains, it is clear that she was shot by the murderer. And the murderer placed the gun in her hand to make this murder to look like a suicide.
she might be ambidextrous!
DeleteOk mam i accept you, she might be ambidextrous. But, how can the blood stains be on the right side of the wall, when she is holding the gun in her right hand.
DeleteI think its a murder .The justifications are:
ReplyDelete1.First of all, the girl would be a left handed person .Its clearly seen through the position of the cigarette ash tray,a pack of cigarettes, the direction of the study lamp,the way the pen has been handled ,a plate, etc.
2.But the orientation of papers brings a difference here.Still most of the things support that the girl must be a left handed only.The real murderer would be a right handed person and would have left the papers in the way he/ she has written a note regarding the false suicide to distract the investigators view .
3.The girl is firmly holding the gun and cigarette which proves it to be a planned murder.If the girl has committed suicide, she would have definitely dropped the gun and the cigarette.Therefore, the murderer would have placed it firmly in her hands.
4.The girl's slipper is lying down in the middle .If it was a suicide, she would have been wearing it.She would have tried to escape from the murderer and left one of her slippers away.Therefore, it is a murder.
5.There should have been a heated arguement between the girl and the murderer and the murderer would have hit her hard against the wall which is evident from the amount of blood splash which is a not only due to a gun shot.Something would have taken place further.
Therefore, the murderer have planned clearly to distract the investigators but have failed to position the gun in her left hand .The murderer have planned to make everyone believe it to be a suicide.
Therefore,I conclude it to be a murder.
Who is this?
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DeleteThe blood spattered on the
DeleteWall at a certain height is not the actual height of the victim...( i.e., victim's head)
Hence, it's not working....
Why do you expect the victim to be standing? The murderer might have pushed her down and then hitted her head against the wall.
DeleteI believe this is a murder because of the following reasons:
ReplyDelete1.The blood stain is on the rear wall, and looking at the direction in which she is lying, she had to be shot on the middle of her forehead. This definitely points to the fact that she was shot dead by someone else. If it was a suicide then she had to be holding the gun in both her hands for her to be able to shoot herself in the middle of her forehead.
2.The victim has a cigarette in her left hand. If she was committing a suicide, I don’t see the necessity to be smoking then.
3. Looking at the way the paper on the desk is placed, the victim seems to be a right-handed person. If it was a suicide there is no way that the blood stains would be on that wall. Moreover, if it was a suicide the victim would have placed the pen on the right side of the paper, however the pen seems to be hurled away thereby suggesting that it had to be a murder.
!<--Shankar Kumar S-->!
Deletea chronic smoker would love to have a last smoke before dying.
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ReplyDeleteIn my point of view it is a murder because
1.lets assume this is a suicide and this dead person holding gun on his right hand and a cigarette in his left hand,if he shot himself with a gun then he would place the gun on the right side of the head and the blood stain will be more on the left side of the image than right side
2.moreover if we observe the table ,the pen ,ash-tray,coke can placed on the left side of the paper.
we have to observe here carefully
2.1 if the person is right hander then the pen should be placed on the right side of the paper ,I think that he is writing with his right hand and holding cigarette in the left hand and beverage on his left side. this is a apt position for a person who writes something.
2.2 if the person is a left hander then the ash-tray and beverage should be placed on the right side but it is opposite here
3. I think he has been shot dead while writing something because the killer shot on the left side of of his head and he has fallen down ,observe that the chair has also fallen down on the right side
Some strange things are
1. If the killer shot him with a gun then should be a bullet somewhere here but not.
2. The blood stain on the wall is too thick it looks like killer enters the room ,drags the victim head and hit him on the wall that's why the blood stain is too high there is a reason also because there is a single slipper facing towards the wall
It must be belong killer's, because no one wears slipper inside a house.
The killer might him with an object,in that speed the victim might hit the wall that's why the blood is on the wall
3. If the victim falls from the chair and hits the wall accidently because of the wire of the lamp,the probability that he die is very less ,
Moreover if the victim died because of gun shot then the blood would spread on all directions ,at least on table paper or paper or on the floor ,but the blood is on the wall only
My conclusion is that it is surely a murder ,it might be because of gun shot or the killer dragged the head of the victim and hit him on the wall
who is this? btw ppl these days wear slippers inside the house. and that slipper looks like slip ons that ppl wear in side the house.
DeleteMam, slippers is not a big deal here but my doubt is if the victim wears the slipper inside the house, where is another slipper???
DeleteIs there anybody who wears only one slipper??
I think the slipper belongs to the killer only
Hi,the fact that she was shot dead while writing something may be wrong.The direction of the pen and paper and the victim supposed to be a left hander is still in mystery.And moreover she must be sitting in such a way with her back facing the wall where blood is splattered so there is no necessity of facing the table.
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If we think it is a murder, how can a common man can have a gun ,even though we can say that he bought it for protection purpose but can he afford it ,he has to pay for the license,rental for the gun ,bullets.
DeleteEven if we say that the killer himself placed the gun on the victim's hands and to frame it as a suicide.
Criminals won't leave their guns as simple as that, because it is very difficult to keep the guns illegally with required bullets.
There is no possibility that criminals can frame it as a suicide with the gun
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The picture reveals that it is a murder.She is writing something important and I think that her writing is related to her murder.
ReplyDeleteMoreover,The murderer plotted the scene as a sucide but he is not so brilliant.
ur justification?
DeleteThe location and spread of the blood spatter could not possibly have been created by a self-inflicted gunshot that also resulted in the body being in that position.
DeleteMurder, when she would have killed herself, the cigarette and the gun would have fallen out if her hands as seen in many Tamil films, because she couldn't hold them anymore. They were put in her hands.
This is from roll no :2018103557
ReplyDeleteI suspect it as a murder because of these observations
1.The way the paper is tilted on the desk is the natural angle at which a right - handed person writes, not how a left handed one does it. However, the way the pen is placed is how you would place it down after writing with the left hand.
2.when someone commit suicide by gun then body releases all tension,which means the gun would not be in their hand. But the victim in the picture is holding it(and also cigarette) firmly which is not possible.
3.after the murder, the killer might have placed the gun and half - burnt cigarette in the victim's hands and then wrote the suicide note. The killer could've probably created this suicide scenario by placing gun and cigarette in victim's hand.
-thank you
oh cigarette also was placed by the killer? night lamp is disturbed?
DeleteWhen a person commits a suicide but shooting themself, they give a lot of grip to the gun. Hence the gun and the cigar must have retained in her hand even though she fell down
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DeleteHow are you saying that she is right handed, when the night lamp is placed on the right side?
Darrshana,2018103521
ReplyDeleteI think so it is a murder,because of the following reasons.
1.She is holding the gun in her right hand.If she had shot herself while sitting in the stool ,facing the window,then the blood would be in the opposite wall.It won't be in the right side wall itself.
2.She is holding the cigarette and the gun firmly in her hand.If she had died due to gun shot,then she would have thrown the gun and the cigarette away,out of shock.
3.The blood stain on the wall appears like the one which would arise when somebody is banged against the wall with great force.
4.And there is only one slipper in the scene.The victim might have tried to escape from the murderer by running and while running would have left her slippers her and there.When she had finally reached this spot,the murderer would have killed her by banging her against the wall and would have created the suicide set up to escape from the police.
While I agree with you that it is a murder (judging by the position of the hand/gun), it is not necessary for the bullet to leave visible marks on the wall, even when the range may be very small.
DeleteThe small barreled handgun in the picture may not have the penetrating power to go through the skull twice.
And also there is another view, if she shot herself by turning away from the desk then blood stain will be on the right side wall know!??
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ReplyDeleteI'm voicing out my views in a way to conclude the above is an example of a murder.
The lamp kept on the right side,cigarette on the left hand clearly indicates that she is left handed but if we see properly, the plug point is just below the lamp and athe wire isn't that very lengthy .She might have kept the lamp there without any other option.It's dark outside indicating evening or night, so she might have wanted to feel the breeze and spend time with nature.
The murderer would have jumped into the room through the window.
The picture shows as if the windows are closed but actually it might not be so when he came in. Since he jumped inside , the lamp would have fallen down. That's why the plug point isn't connected. As it is dark she would have definitely switched on the lamp to write something otherwise she wouldn't be able to see what she is writing . The lamp must be initially on but when he jumped through the window the lamp might have fallen down and so the wire could have been detached from the plug point.
The gun is clearly that of the murderer but I think he didn't use it. Rather, after jumping in,he would have choked her throat right away. Had he used the gun the blood stains can be spotted all over the room, but we can't find a single blood stain even on the flower vase kept nearby. But it was spread only on the wall. As I said he might have pushed her to the corner of the room, to get the support of the wall and apply pressure on her throat. As a result the blood is found all over the wall. May be in a hurry to leave he would have forgotten that he had left one of his slippers.
The murder trying to be oversmart, arranged things right in place but he didn't realise that he didn't connect the wire to the plug point, and he didn't take back his footwear . and inorder to deceive this incident as a suicide,he might have placed the gun on her hand and he himself might have written a suicide note which appears to be placed there.Moreover he has closed the window before leaving the house...so that investigators eliminate the thought of someone coming in through the window.
If she was a smoker or a person who consumes alcohol due to depression, i don't think being addicted to it, would have made her throw the bottle into the dustbin(which no consumer of alcohol would do) or leave her last smoke incomplete.
It is clearly seen from the fallen stool and from the room arrangements ,the victim obviously try to escape from the murderer..but she can't
So ,according to me I conclude this is a murder..
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Don't you think that choking would outright confirm that it's a murder,since forensic analysis are so advanced and there are various signs of someone who died through suffocation. So, I guess it was just a gunshot.
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DeleteU said that there is some clash between victim and the murderer. But the picture there is nothing misplaced or disturbed. And you said the opposite man set up all the property and make it like a suicide then how could he missed his footwear?
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ReplyDeleteIn my point of view, this seems like a murder. Ive listed down some points to support my argument.
1.The direction of the Gun and the blood splatter really don't seem to match.He/She has a cigarette on the left hand and the workplace seems to imply that the victim is a left hander. So its practically not possible to shoot oneself with a two things in a hand. It looks like someone had shot him/her down and placed the gun in her hand, so that it doesn't seem like a murder.
2. The things around the person seem scattered. If she/he had committed suicide, why would they do it so messy?. Mostly people who suicide either write a note, or don't leave a clue on why they committed suicide.
3. The lamp cord seems to be plugged out. I don't think anyone would plug out the lamp cord and leave it hanging there. So I strongly feel there is a second person in this frame. The murderer would have wanted to kill that person in the dark and Since it was night then( assumption from the shade of the windows), the lamp would have been the only source of light, and so the murderer might have plugged it out.
4. The murderer probably watched the victim so carefully. that he had planned to murder him/her when he/she was in the influence of alcohol. (Vulnerability).
5. The stool beneath the victim and the slipper adds on to the fact that he/she was murdered. The victim would have trembled in pain and would have fallen off the stool.
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ReplyDeleteFrom my observation,I think this incident is a murder.
The way the paper and pen are positioned in the table shows that she must be a right handed person.
If she had shot herself,then the blood would have been spattered to her left side but here the blood is spattered on the right wall.So someone would have shot her from her left .so definitely this is not a suicide.
It is seen from the picture that she is a smoker.She might have been smoking while writing .At that time,the murderer crept into her room and shot her dead.Due to the effect of shooting,along with the stool she might have fallen onto the floor and one of her slippers slipped away from her foot.
Then the murderer might have unplugged the lamp to make the room dark and to make this incident look like suicide,the murderer would have kept the gun in her hand.
These are the reasons to conclude this as a murder.
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DeleteIn the point in which you have justified that the incident is not suicide, you pointed out that if she had shot herself with gun on the right side, then blood will be spattered on left side.But here my point is what if she had turned back and shot herself so that the blood could be spattered on the right side wall.
How can u justify that she is right-handed by seeing the position of paper and pen?It might be written by the murderer to make it as a suicide.
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DeleteI suspect this to be a murder.
ReplyDeleteI guess the victim is a left handed person. It is evident from the position of the study lamp and the cigarette in her hand . If it was a suicide, the victim would have been wearing the slippers. But here, there is only one slipper. I guess it belongs to the murderer. He would've missed it there when he had left the spot in a hurry. From the blood stain on the wall, I guess that the murderer would've shot the victim when she was sitting on the stool. Also, the victim is holding the gun in her hand so firmly which is practically not possible. So the murderer must've shot her and placed the gun in her hand to make it look like a suicide.
Therefore I conclude this to be a murder.
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What about the cigarette?Why should the murderer place the cigarette in her hand?
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doesn't she seem to be writing something?
DeleteThe lenghth of the wire of the lamp might have been not enough to place the lamp in the left side. So she would have kept it in the right side.I dont think that ur point on why she is a left hander is not enough
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If the victim is a left handed person then what about the position of the paper which is tilted in a such a way that a right handed used to write with?
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If the victim is a left handed person then what about the position of the paper on the table which is tilted in such a way that a right handed person used to write with.
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If the victim is a left handed person then what about the position of the paper on the table which is tilted in such a way that a right handed person used to write with.
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This picture depicts a murder. I can say for sure that this is not a suicide.
ReplyDeleteThe emotions of the room doesn't look like a place where it had a suicider for a long time. Its more of a normal room where a girl lives on her terms.
The room has books arranged in well manner. A person who decides to commit suicide would have tried looking at their books , or their favorite collections. And if they come to such a decision, why would they decide to arrange in pile.
The flowers are fresh. Person with such depression (a thought of suicide) wouldn't care to change the flowers or try to keep their surrounding fresh.
The gun is found in right hand. There are papers and pen on the table which shows that the girl is facing towards that. If she had shot with her right hand , why would there be blood splash on the opposite side. This clearly states that a murderer shot her and the position of fallen chair also convince this point.
The missing of one slipper is suspicious. She might have struggled or tried to run and the slipper got misplaced. To clear the evidence,the murderer would have removed it.
There are bottles in the garbage can. This might be some act of the murderer to make it look as a suicide. Because,if she wishes to keep to room fresh(since there are fresh flowers),she wouldn't dispose the bottles in trash can. She would've thrown away. We could see there is an ash tray. So the girl is a neat freak and the bottle's place is suspicious.
The knob of the window is in half way. The murderer would have closed it to escape without anybody seeing him. Then why would the window be closed in day light?
Thus it is a murder and not many points support it to be a suicide.
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ReplyDeleteI suspect that would be a suicide. Because every things on the table and the flower vase all are in perfect positions. If it is a planned murder,then the murderer will miss any evidence. But there was no things were misplaced.
From the other friends points if she is in problem and write something against a party or someone ,she won't smoke . because she has no security for her life then how could she smokes.
In Ash tray there are some uncompleted cigarettes are there. So she was not in hurry of writing.
She wants to commit suicide.but she was afraid about it . That's why she smoked . And she wrote a conclusion of her life. From the picture the pen and paper was clearly placed.she was a right-handed because the gun was in right hand only,No one can use their another hand to do new and afraid things.
She was a smoker that's why she
can use her both hand ( left hand) to smoke. By seeing this picture she looks
She was in her room with her casual night wear and she was depressed.
In most of the suicide cases ,they commit with suicide when they are alone . Like that here also she committed suicide.
After she shot her with gun ,she fell down .at that time only the chair was distured. Therefore I conclude this to be a suicide.
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DeleteYour point is that the victim is right handed and has committed suicide...If the victim is right-handed and has committed suicide while sitting in the stool,then why is the blood stain in the opposite direction??i.e why is it at the right wall...???..As you mentioned people only use their dominant hand for important activities....I feel that the victim being a LEFT hander must have used her left hand..Hence the blood stain is at the wall in the opposite direction...This contradicts your fact that this case is a suicide....
DeleteHow is the victim right handed....it actually completely changed ur point of view
DeleteAs you said, if she shot herself with gun there will be blood spatter on the floor. But if you see,instead of that,there is lot of blood on the wall..This evident contradicts your opinion that she committed suicide...
DeleteAs you said, if she shot herself with gun there will be blood spatter on the floor. But if you see,instead of that,there is lot of blood on the wall..This evident contradicts your opinion that she committed suicide...
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Delete1)see basically, when u shoot yourselves and fall down you won't be holding the gun in your hand.it slips off from your hand as soon as you shoot urselves
2)the blood had splashed in the wall. If this is a suicide and the person had shot herself using her right hand then the blood will be spilled on the opposite side but the picture doesn't seem to be the same.
Why would a murderer leave evidence?
DeleteThe following case seems to be a murder.
ReplyDeleteFirstly, I would like to put forth my perspective to rule out the possibility of a suicide.
1. Assuming that she was facing the window and writing something (not a suicide note), the scene clearly indicates that she has fallen to her right from the chair. So, if she had committed suicide using the gun in her right hand, then there is no chance for the gun to be in her hand, as the gun would have popped out of her right hand due to the impact with the floor.
2. If she had shot herself using her right hand on the right forehead, then the blood splatter should have been on the left side of her. But the crime scene shows us that the blood splatter is to the right of her, which hints us about a murderer who has shot her from her left.
3. The pen and the cigarettes are on the left hand side which would mean that her dominant hand is her left one. To support this point, the lamp is on her right which is the general place where a left handed person would keep it. Even her glasses are on her left which is enough evidence to conclude that her dominant hand is left.To pull a trigger using one's non dominant hand is not anyone would choose. So it is clearly a planted evidence.
So this is what, i think, would have happened. The murderer has pre-plans the murder and shot the victim using a gun. This is where she falls down and her hand unplugs the lamp when she falls. Then the murderer plants the gun in the victim's hand and escapes seemingly making it a suicide.
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Are you From q batch???
DeleteI think he's from P batch.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion this is clearly a suicide and not a murder.
ReplyDeleteThe blood stain on the wall is not splattered, hence she must be shot from a closer range.
Had if she was shot from a distance, the blood would be splattered and the speed of the bullet would have been so high tht it pierced into her head and hit near the window. Hence it must be clogged inside her head leading to a clumsy single splash on the wall
1. If it was a murder.. the person who came to kill her is not that foolish to leave his slippers in her room. It looks like a normal slipper which we wear in the house. So she must have hurried when she came to write a suicide note, at tht time the slipper must have fell near her.
2. She doesn't have any defending scars on her body, hence she did not tackle the murderer, nor her dresses are rolled up , hence she was not dragged to that position.
3.commiting a suicide needs a lot of courage, the alcohol in the dustbin and the ashtray proves that she tried to intoxicate herself before committing a suicide.
4. Most of the person who uses spectacles wont removed it after writing a note. She must have cried and so inorder to wipe her tears she must have removed the glasses.
5. She must be a right handed person because even though there is a lot of space on her left, she kept the books on her right so that she can reach the book easily.
My interpretation is..
She must have hurried and sat to write a suicide note, cried a lot and removed the glasses, smoke some cigar, and in order to get the courage she grabbed a cigar in her hand and reached the cupboard to grab a gun, sat with her back facing towards the window and shot herself.
1.maybe the murderer would have heard someone approaching and would have left his slippers while trying to run away..why would anyone commit suicide in a hurry?
Delete2.maybe he would have sneaked in without her knowledge and shot her.
Regarding 2nd point: the murderer shot her with a gun so it isn't even necessary for the murderer to deal with her.
DeleteThis explains why doesn't have a scar
I think it is a murder,because the blood stain on the wall is rightside to her and the gun she is holding also on the same side which is not possible when she commit suicide by shooting herself.The murderer might be a known person to her,and they might had a clash( due to their personal issues)in that process, the stool fell down and lamp is plugged out.
ReplyDeleteThe blood stain on the wall might be happened when muderer hit her head against the wall and shot her with his gun.Then,he planned to mislead the case by creating it as a suicide.so,he left a suicide note(written by the murderer) on the table,Ash tray,gun in the victim's right hand,cigarette in the left hand which seems that she committed suicide because of depression.
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I think that the stain on the wall might not be a blood...since the height of the spot is not the actual height of the victim....( Even she is shooted or forced to hit....)
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If the murderer has placed the things in it's correct position then what about the lamp plug and the stool?
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ReplyDeleteThis is Anand(2018103512)
In my opinion, it's a murderer.
- There is only one slipper in the photo that in the ground .Now if she shot herself she should have her slippers on her feet or both her slippers should be on the ground where she placed it .But it is not in this case.It shows she lost the slippers during a struggle with the murderer.
– Now Cigarette in left hand shows she is a left handed person, She can`t shot herself by right hand.
– Now she has written something on a paper ,but the table lamp is not connected with the wall socket.
– Now she is holding a cigarette in her left hand.She should have dropped the cigarette before shooting if it is a suicide.
– Now she is shown shot in her right side of head and there is blood in the wall on the right side.
– Now if it is a suicide the impact of bullet should have caused her to fall to her left side but she is shown fall to her right side.This shows a presence of third person who caused the body to fall on the right side
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DeleteWhere is the other slipper man?
Deleteis there any rule that a left hander would smoke only using his/her left hand?? i dont think that she is a left hander. Prove me wrong
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The position of the pen seems as if a left-hander has dropped it.Also her table lamp is right to the chair which adds on another evidence to the assumption that she is a left-hander.Perceptions may vary :)
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Sriman you have stated that she is a left hander in your comment and you are saying here that you don't think she is a left hander. Care to explain the sudden change of opinion?
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DeleteSriman there is no particular rule. It's a common thing that right handers mostly use right hand and left handes the left hand. As she is holding the cigarette in the left hand she surely must be a left hander.
DeleteAnand, this is a nice explanation you gave here.
DeleteDhayalraj, from the facts that Anand gave, there is not enough evidence that she is a left hander. That is what i was trying to say in my previous reply. I am not changing my opinion. But if any other person who sees this reply of Anand would find it not clear to explain his assumption.
Lokesh M, There are many possibilities here, She might have been writing with her right hand, and smoking using her left hand at the same time. Or she might have put her pen down and smoking using her left hand. So there is a probability that she is a right hander still.
(ps : Dhayalraj, These are possibilities )
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ReplyDeleteIt's both. It's a painting and only the artist would know if he intended it one way or the other but it has elements of both. Couldn't find the artist but there are signs of left handedness and body staging but also the window is locked so I assume the door was locked, are those keys between the cigarettes and soda? Where is the other sandal? How much can you really deduce from a painting? That's art.
ReplyDeleteBut in my opinion it's a murder:
The gun is in her right hand, but looking at the rest of the scene she has a cigarette in her left hand and the ash tray is on the left side of the counter. Given that there is also a window and a knocked over stool, I predict that she was sitting down facing the window smoking a cigarette. But if she was smoking the cigarette the window would have been open as no one is stupid enough to suffocate themselves with the smoke coming from their own cigarette. So the murderer could have closed the window to make it look like a suicide. Also if she shot herself in the head with her right hand the blood spray would shoot the other direction - the attack had to come from her left. She was murdered and then the shooter put the gun in her right hand.
1 st para is awesome!
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Deletejust need to observe one thing.... If the person shot himself/herself with the gun in the right hand then there is no way on earth that the blood would splatter on the wall on the right side...you are ryt though...
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The blood would splatter on the wall as depicted in the photo if you consider the possibility of her standing looking away from the window and towards the viewer.
DeleteYou took this from which website bro...???
DeleteThe same website you took from bro(whoever you are)...
DeleteMr.Dhayalaraj you said it's both murder and suicide. Can you say which think made u think it can be a suicide too?
DeleteThis is clearly a case of murder.
ReplyDelete1.the cigar
Why would a person smoke and kill at the same time ? Even if he had done so
The cigar must have dropped from his hand.But it was still clutched between the fingers which is impossible...it would have been placed by the murderer.
2.The lone slipper
If the slipper belongs to the woman the other slipper must be lying somewhere near..
3.the position of body
The position of legs doesn't seem like that of a dead body..the murderer must have dragged the body and would have placed it in such a way.
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DeleteFrom your opinion the question why is all about her. If she want to commit suicide but she didn't have the brave , that's why she smoked and drank alcohol.
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ReplyDeleteI think it must be a suicide to all viewers. But unfortunately, it's a cut and clear murder. The story is that the victim might have reading something with a cigarette in the right hand without specs. Shortly, murderer comes and kills her by gun shot.the blood stain proves it. In order to escape, he plotted to do something different as to make this murder a suicide.
First to make viewers think she is a left hander. So there is a cigarette in her hand as she smokes with her left hand usually.
Second is that the pistol which she holds in her right.
I think this is enough
If someone can read a text without wearing specs, then why should he have a specs . Maybe the killer would have removed the specs or it might have fallen down .
DeleteIt might not have been a power glass. She might put specs to look more attractive. At that time, she might have removed her specs. Perceptions differ from each other
DeleteI dont think that by seeing the cigar in her left hand, she is a left hander.
DeleteHow possibly could be such a blood splash in the wall for a single gun shot?
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Perception differs.
DeleteMight be a very very very powerful gun!
DeleteThird is the strange one slipper lying.
ReplyDeleteObserving this, the detective might think upto it's peak and come to arrive at a solution. But the thing is murder is wiser than him.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
It's the continuation
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ReplyDeleteAparna Sivanandam
I believe this is a murder and not a suicide.
If it were a suicide the only weapon of self destruction is the gun. However there are no bullet marks on the wall.
The blood splatter shows that the victim must have been injured brutally while trying to save herself.
The left handed victim who was writing something as she smoked and drank, was shocked to see the murder, in surprise, she must have leapt out of the stool. This explains the mess on the table and the fallen stool. In the frenzy her chappals might have been strewn away, one of which we can see in the picture. The victim might have held out a gun in defence which she tried to get hold off with great difficulty as she didn't have her glasses on and she wasn't in her best state, which also explains the mess. But before much could be done, she must have been killed in a manner different from being shot as no signs of bullet and the blood splatter shows its either a sharp force injury(stabbing) or a hard force injury(beating). The glass frame behind her shows no signs of breakage which shows the victim died almost immediately. As she was in a drunken state, she couldn't put up her best fight.
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ReplyDeleteSeeing this picture,i predict this might be a murder.The man/woman is seen having a gun, so i assume there might have been a gun fight .
This incident seems to be happened
ReplyDeleteat night time since the victim is in night suit with her one of the slippers nearby....
I think that, she could have any personal issue.....For instance,she could have got in an argument with her boyfriend....
There would be any fight in the morning...
After sometime ,she would have been realized and planned to commit suicide...
Further,the red on the wall may be a painting or someother else...since there is no,a drop of blood in the floor..... Also,a suicide letter on the desk suggests a suicide....This may be done out of frustration!!!
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DeleteIf she might have committed suicide then after falling down she might have dropped the cigarette but here it seems that the cigarette is placed perfectly in between her fingers by someone else... How can it be possible to be a suicide?
As you mentioned, the stain on the wall is painting if it so,then why paint bottle or the things related to painting are not there in the surroundings?
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DeleteThe position of the body doesn't seem to support your idea. How are you justifying this?
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ReplyDeletethis is G.Bhanu Nikhil
ReplyDeleteIn my point of view this is a murder.Here one should observe that cigarette is in her left hand and whereas the gun is in her right hand .actually it seems to be she might have been writing a letter about some complaint on someone(enemy).when enemy come to know about this,he rushed into her home inorder to kill her .when she saw him ,she ran into her room to pick the gun.in this course of time she was shot by the enemy from the entrance of the room.becozt of this may be blood was splashed on the wall which is exactly on her back side.
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may be this one was kept by the killer in her hand .
~Slipper
it may be fallen there when she was rushed into the room to pick the gun
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Ur point on specs?
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ReplyDeleteAs per Dhayalraj assumption only the artist know what is actually happened.
Normally artists won't draw like this one. I think it might be a true incident.
In my point of view, artist is the murderer. He might be a professional photographer and artist.He may have habbit of killing people and taking photo instantly then drawing it as an art.
The proofs are as allows:
1)Blood still didn't touch the ground.
2)Cigarette is not fully completed.
If we investigate the artist, we can know the murderer.
If still you are confused, whether it is a suicide or murder, don't think high, it's just an art.
Who is Dhayalaraj..???
DeleteThe one who was sitting right next to you when you were commenting this
DeleteYou were the one who asked me to cmnt this...LOL 🙄🙄 It is a preplanned reply cmnt then...🤗
DeleteYou were supposed to keep that as a secret!!! No cooperation at all Tharuma!!!
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ReplyDeleteThis might be a suicide because she had wriiten a suicide letter before attempting suicide.If we look keenly at the picture she had mentioned her name at the end of letter.In my point of view,she might be mentally and physchologically disordered because of some reasons(love failure,scoldings from parents etc..).so she had run in to room because of that her footwears were scattered.Then she might write her reasons for attempting suicide.In the mean of time she had smoked many ciggarettes because of tension whether to die or not.She hadn’t plugged in the lamp because of tension.At last she had shot her itself with pistol.While falling she had hitted with wall so the blood had spreaded on the wall.
In my point of view if we are depressed we should consult with our friends and parents.we should not take any wrong decisions.”Nothing is permanent”.
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ReplyDelete1) Left handed. Gun on right.
2) Blood on right wall.
3) He had time to stop and look at the person because he set his glasses down and pen looking over.
4) mouth open.
5) It was dark, so he probably couldn't see the person. (Lamp not pluged in)
6) Chair nocked over. He had stood up and looked over when he got shot, Because of the position of his head and The blood on the wall, It had to of been close range.
7) Was drinking recently, so Either Someone was drinking with him, or He was stressed about something, Causing him to drink and Light a cigarette.
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But why was he(she) sitting in the dark.?
Deletehow would u say that she is left handed? please dont say that she is smoking using her left hand as an answer.
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I believe this a murder.
ReplyDeleteThe unfinished cigarette shows that this was not a suicide otherwise she would have finished it.
The victim is left handed because the papers on her desk are pointed towards the right and if she wanted to shoot herself she would have held the gun in the left hand and not the right.Also her glasses r towards the left side of the table.
The messy state of the room suggests that her attacker took her by surprise and the victim tried to defend herself with a gun in hurry.
Also the gun on the victims hand mighy have been planted by the murderer to make it seem like it was a suicide
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ReplyDeleteThe probability of the above scenario to be a murder is higher than that of suicide.so I suspect this to be a murder.
1) she seems to be a right handed person...I can say this by looking at the position of the paper and the gun in her right hand.also,you have the ash tray and Coca-Cola tin in the left side..generally humans use their non-dominant hand while using these.
2) I strongly disagree that this is a suicide because if a person shoots himself with the right hand blood will splash towards the left..
3)it's dark and lamp is turned off so probably the murderer could not figure out where is the person in the room
4)the room is untidy with all things messed up.
May be the murderer due to darkness not being able to see,messed up all the things , shot the person and left the spot..
I guess the victim was writing something in her desk. Then, why would she turn off the lamp?
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ReplyDeleteThis is a murder. At first when a common man wants to suicide he prefers cutting nerves, sleeping pills etc., Not gun because gun license is not that easy and one should know how to handle the gun. Usually gangsters have good practice in gun. The second thing is that if she shot after writing sitting on the chair , the blood should have shattered on the other wall..And seeing the lamp plugged off... Everyone uses switch to on and off the lamp, not the plug...it might have accidentally plugged off during the defense from the murderer.The chair also should have fallen when she tried to save herself from the murderer.And the slippers....if she were wearing the slippers while writing , after she is dead , it should be lying very close to her feet( both the slippers , not a single one) .. But the slippers are actually scattered away during the defense... Coming to cigarette , if she usually smokes, there should be an ash tray on her table..It seems like murderer kept the cigarette on her hand to make others believe it a suicide...And coming to the letter on the table , if she were writing her last letter , she would have written everything on her mind not a half page...
Hello.I'm Aparna.G(2018103515)
ReplyDeleteThe picture looks like a murder at first sight.The girl is having a cigarette in her left hand.The position of the pen on the table indicates that the girl is a right hander.So if she smokes her cigarette will be on her right hand.The flowers look quite fresh in the vase.If the girl was depressed she wouldn't have the mind to replace the flowers..Also there is only one slipper on the floor.The would have fought the killer and her slippers would have come off .One is here and the other one might be somewhere else in the same room.The fight with the murderer explains the knocked down stool on the ground.Looking at the notes on the table,it is only filled for half a page which rules out the possibility of a suicide note.So maybe in order to avoid suspicion the murderer placed a gun on the girl's hand like he did with the cigarette.
This is clearly a murder. I have listed some of the facts which proves it below.
ReplyDelete1. the window is black which suggests that it is night time and also we could see the table lamp not plugged in. It is clearly visible that she was writing something. How would she write during night time in the dark?
2. She has the gun in her right hand and she is clearly a left hander.If she has commited suicide the blood stains would have been on the opposite side but it is not the case here.
3. if she has commited suicide, then there would not have been such a large blood stain on the wall.
There could have been many scenarios which could have happened
She was writing a letter and smoking a cigarette when she should have heard somebody entering the room. By instinct she would have reached for her gun standing up ,by then it was too late for her. The murderer has shot her in the head and that has caused the blood stains on the wall.
Other possibility is that she would have heard someone entering the room while she was smoking the cigarette and trying to stand up she would have tripped down and would have unplugged the lamp. By the time she got up she was shot by the murderer. To make this murder a suicide, the murderer would have placed his own gun in her hand and would have written down a suicide note making this incident look like a murder. Clearly She is a left hander judging by the lamp. But the murderer might have been a right hander thereby writing down some suicide note and leaving the place quickly leaving one of his footwear behind.
All these facts suggest that it is clearly a MURDER.
Thank You,
Sriman A
How would you justify your guess that she is a left hander?
DeleteAlso in one of your "possibilities" you have stated that she might have tripped down while trying to stand up and may have unplugged the wire while doing so. In the next line you have said the murderer may have written a suicide note to make it look like a murder. How would he/she write in dark?(it's dark because you have stated this in first point)
The murderer might have used his mobile flashlight😂😂😂. Instead of using the mobile flashlight if he has opted to switch the lamp back on , he would have taken more time to escape from the scenario.
DeleteI'm Roshika(2018103581)
ReplyDeleteI think the person is holding a gun for her own safety because she must have somehow seen the murderer coming but she might be too late in using it.
Also the position of the blood on the wall is so odd. Only a bullet which is shot from a different angle can make the blood appear at that spot.
So I conclude that it's a murder.
Well said about the blood stains. But Why is the stool down if she was pushed onto the wall?Did she fall down?
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It's murder. The shell casing on the desk could only have gotten there if the gun was fired using the right hand (since the ejection port is on the right side of the gun), and the blood splatter is obviously on the wrong side. The the victim was left handed which is shown by pen/light placement, and the direction the paper is turned in. The half smoked cigarette is in the left hand and the ash tray is on the left side of the desk, meaning they were probably smoking out of the window after taking a break from writing (which is why the reading glasses are off). If the killer cared enough to place the gun in the person's hand they were obviously trying to cover their own tracks, which is why they unplugged the lamp while placing the gun to stop people outside from seeing the blood splatter. In addition to this, they also closed the window, since closed windows are much more inconspicuous than open ones.
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I think it is a murder bcoz of the following reasons.
ReplyDelete1) The person is clearly left-handed. The lamp is placed to the right side which is again a common tendency for a left-handed person. She is even holding a half burnt cigarette in her left hand so she obviously didn’t shoot herself.
Basic human behaviour suggests that we tend to finish all our work before committing suicide. So she would have finished her cigarette first before having to kill herself.
She’s holding the gun the opposite direction where the blood splatter is at. The point of impact and the blood splatter speak otherwise.
When you commit suicide by gun your body releases all tension, meaning the gun would not be in their hand.
The light is unplugged, and you can see (what seems like) the night sky in the window. How could the person write a suicide note in the dark?
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It’s a suicide case, I think she was sitting facing the table smoking the cigarette with her left hand and writing a letter with her right hand that he is about committing a suicide, to help the police when investigating, not to accuse wrong people for the incident, After writing the letter ,she turned backward to the table and held the gun with her right hand and the cigarette in the other hand. After a while, she shot her herself BOOM , the bullet passed through the right ear and blood split out from the left ear to the wall. If this was a murderer case, she won’t lye in that state
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The cigarette is only half smoked it looks. If someone wanted to kill themselves, wouldn't they want to smoke the whole thing? Or at the very least, put it out. Also the placement of everything on the table indicates that the person was left handed. Yet the gun is in the right. I'm going to say it's a murder.
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DeleteClearly murder because the lady is left handed not only because of the orientation of the pen but also because the spectacles are on the right hand side.. if one hand uses the pen, the other hand usually adjusts the glasses...
ReplyDeletePlus the blood splatter on the window makes it a difficult angle for it to be a suicide.. say if the lady was after all right handed and she sat sideways on the stool and then pushed the trigger through her temples, because of the momentum, both of her arms would fall on the same side of her body (as opposed to the spread apart manner shown here), so it is clearly murder..
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DeleteSuicide. The victim was actually facing away from the window when the shot was fired. indicated by the direction their body is facing with the victims knees facing away from the window. There also appears to be a shell casing beside the lamp indicating the gun was fired close to the victim, a reasonable range for a self inflicted wound. Like stated above the placement of items on the desk does not indicate a left handed person beyond a reasonable doubt. For example the lamp is on the right side but so is the outlet, the cord may simply not be long enough to be put on the left side.
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ReplyDeleteHi guys,
ReplyDeleteThe question is whether it's a suicide or murder. Most of you guys see the picture in the intention of proving as a murder and you don't thing why it can't be a suicide and search points for proving as murder.
If you say it a murder, I have a question for you. If someone is coming to kill you, you won't let him easily to kill you, atleast you will make attempts to escape from him by running out throwing things near you towards him. But in the picture all the things are kept as it is.And so it should be a suicide.
You may ask the question that she is a left hander and the gun is in the right hand. It's not the case that the gun will fire only you use the respective hand.The gun will fire irrespective of the left of right hand if you fire. As it's a very short range you can any of the hands to fire. Only for long ranges you should use perfect hand and should have perfection.
Finally! I conclude that it is a suicide!!!
It is a murder... Seeing the direction of her body lying down... And the blood stains on the wall... It is obvious that the gun was pointed towards head.. not pointed to the side of her head.. which is the case in 75% of suicide cases... The cigarette in her hand is not fully puffed.. psycological analysing this... A person who wants to die will always want to do something COMPLETELY for one last time... But she didn't smoke completely so it also raises some suspicions.. There are also some signs of struggle.. for example look at the table lamp.. she might have lifted the lamp and tried to hit the murderer... But before that she gets shot and the murderer keeps the lamp back at the table but forgets to plug it to the switch box.. so I think it is a murder
ReplyDeleteAkash Kirthik (2018103006)
ReplyDeleteI think it is a murder. Because from the position of the lamp and the spectacles, it's clear that she is left handed. She was holding a half burnt cigarette in her left hand and it doesn't make much sense to shoot herself while smoking. The murder must have tried to distract the ongoing investigation by planting a live cigarette in her hand.
I suscept this is a murder..and i also say that she has been shooted out while sitting on the chair.The fact that the murdered lady is a left handed which is revealed by the cigarartte in her left hand and ashtray..and im conveying that is not a suucide since if she was a chronic smoker,she would smoke until the cigaratte finishes,she won't die at half cigaratte incomplete.This proves that it is a MURDER
ReplyDeleteI would strongly say that..while thr lady is going to commit suicide..before that itself the murder happens..i confer the above statement which the help of traces..a open pen on the paper and some tablets on desk...but how the gun appears is the fact that she may also sucide with a gun or she might took the gun to kill murderer
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure this is a murder and not a suicide for a number for reasons.
ReplyDeleteThe girl seems to be left handed. Most of the objects on her desk are facing towards the left side. The cigarette is also in her left hand. The objects would have obviously been facing the right side if she was right handed, so we can conclude that she is left handed.
The gun is also in her right hand. There are 2 reasons for why this is a problem. The first is that she is left handed for the reasons stated above. The second is that the recoil of the gun would have caused her to drop it. Shooting a gun takes a lot of force and it is very difficult to fire without dropping it.
Her slippers are on the floor and her cigarette is unfinished. This implies that she was murdered in the middle of doing something,and not a suicide.
For these reasons, I have concluded that this is a murder and not a suicide.
-Naveen M(2018103045)